Tuesday, 2 February 2010

Meaning of life

You want the truth to the Universe?

You have it already in your own being.

Stop looking and you'll see.

9 comments:

Doug McMillan said...

Sorry, where shouldn't I be looking?

;-)

Ta-Wan said...

Shinzen, can I borrow one end of your broken bokken to hit Dough with please?

:D

Shinzen said...

Sure...no problem.. but for me death is the meaning of life. Without death, life would have no meaning.

But then of course there are twinkies and coffee...the ultimate in truth and meaning :)

Doug McMillan said...

Just as well I have a high pain threshold then isn't it lads?

Can what is 'real' die? Was it ever born in the first place . . .

:D

Shinzen said...

Doug: I was waiting for that 'real' stuff...and I agree, the 'I' is illusory and in many ways has never been born or dies... but pain still exists when the bokken smashes my knuckles...ouch!

Who is it that screams?

Doug McMillan said...

Hi Shinzen,

The physical form feels physical pain, nothing wrong with that . . the conditioned personality/I-Ego feels psychological and emotional pain, that is ignorance . .

. . and the real 'I', Pure Being/Tao, well I observe it all!

I've broken two fingers (one in mid January), smashed up my ankle and I have had a damaged shoulder (still painful and restricted) all within less than a year and I've carried on as normal . . as the observer of it all.

The physical pain is there, I see it, but it's not me . . I feel NO psychological pain, suffering or misery about it and therefore I carry on. It hasn't stopped me dancing with my partner either (well the ankle did for a short while ;-), although my closest friend looks on incredulously; so be it :-)

What 'I' the reader 'am', is not physical, psychological or emotional . . . in my experience . . . the body is my instrument, a vehicle through which to experience existence. I am Being, and my being is of the moment, and in the moment there is only what 'is'.

I had better stop there for now before you both come after me with that bloody bokken, ha, ha . .

Shinzen said...

Doug: I understand...detached awareness of physical discomfort is what we try to achieve in pain management work...You're there.

You're just fun to poke.

Also what you are describing is the difference between pain and suffering...maybe I will write on that in my post over at the broken bokken...take care...

and thanks Ta-Wan for supplying another round of fantastic head-tripping.

Doug McMillan said...

Ta-Wan . . sort him out, he came at me from out of my blind side with another psychological bokken attack!

Fortunately I'm unharmed . . .

. . Shinzen, NO, actually I was describing the difference between physical pain, psychological/emotional pain and being; which is no pain!

My words are accurate, don't trip over them! ;-)

Ta-Wan said...

I get the idea that going at Shinzen with a weapon would end badly for my physical self.

Taking on Doug with my mental self is always rewarding as the barrage of insight always has great content.

My favourite being this: [Reply 6 Prargraph 6] ". . . in my experience . . . the body is my instrument, a vehicle through which to experience existence. I am Being, and my being is of the moment, and in the moment there is only what 'is'."

That is close to what today's post was aiming at.

Thanks guys for the kata.